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Update; June 2

Postby K-MacK » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:34 pm

"NOT KRIS SIGN" Peter's low on Wolf'sbane, but fortunately Jean's mom had some made up. Still- this is still a Full Moon night; and Sarah still hasn't a clue on controlling herself. :oops: :shock:
Poor Peter: there 's only one thing that seems to distract the Wuff, and he's going to have to distract her all night long (or until Moonset).
Perhaps Jean or her mom will think to bring him a "Back Patch" in the morning...or maybe Jean will be back later. :wink:
Still; there's my favourite loose cannon running about-Butch. One hopes she doesn't know where our newly-mateds are staying. :? Yeah; me too.

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Postby Kaeto » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:14 pm

Also Dr. Abe said that the pill form is less effective than the whole plant. And Whole plant was only keeping her human for 30 min or so.

So in all probability she'll burn through that pill bottle full in a very short time
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Postby Kris@WLP » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:57 pm

It's not wolfsbane- it's "Plan B," or a werewolf-effective herbal analog...

... a morning-after pill.

We'll edit the page once Ben and I are caught up on sleep from A-Kon and find time to do it to clear up the purpose of the pill.

Repeating- what Jean gave Sarah was NOT wolfsbane.
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Postby Kaeto » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:10 pm

I see. They want to make sure Sara doesn't have pups until she is fully in control.
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Postby SpotWeld » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:38 pm

Hmm... I wonder if Sara is going to ask Peter and Jean to change for her, now that she knows 1) They are werewolvesf, 2) The change can be voluntarily/chemically induced, 3) things are relativly sane for a little while, 4) looks like they've got some free time on thier hands. (beside.. more werewolf cosplay ideas)
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Postby K-MacK » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:25 pm

Well; One suspects Jean will be at home until after the Full Moon has set.
Remember: Sarah has no control yet, the Wolfsbane is nearly gone (one packet left) and there's a Full Moon tonight.
Jean seems to already have an idea for costuming in the form of a traditionally styled Jingle Dress. Hmmmm-- Perhaps she is still a "child" in the Tribe's eyes and the dress and the dance are part of her Adulthood Rites. Perhaps not: they're a pain to draw...
Even without the shading, the story gets interesting.
Good work, Kris and Ben-and I hope the A-Kon was fun.

Edit: Even though it's just print on paper, I can hear the almost pleading note in the Sheriff's voice as he asks them to stay home...
You KNOW it won't happen.... :twisted:
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Postby bar1scorpio » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:32 pm

Actually, most birth control and Plan B, aka the "Morning After" I believe, are hormone-based, affecting the estrogen and progesterone levels. Then again, most of the chemicals used to change human chemistry in modern pharmaceuticals are based on chemicals that naturally occur in various plants. Thing is, Werewolves, for some reason, react better to natural versions, pure extracts (which can't have a guaranteed uniformity, unfortunately) as opposed to synthetically based chemicals.

However, how Lycanthropes react to hormone-based therapy is an unknown. The science is recently new, and applications are few. But 'the pill' in some form apparently works for female werewolves, since Sally has been on some form since Peter was young to keep from getting pregnant.

It might be, with Lycanthrope's keen sense of smell and taste, that they may have been early pioneers in finding some of the earliest forms of herbal birth control, via (a) trial-and-error, with notice of cause-and-effect, followed up by (b) sniffing for the plants that give off similar chemicals to known herbs already used for that purpose.

What Jean was passing off was a bottle of a 'Morning-After" style high-dosage werewolf-friendly ovulation inhibitor. Whether hormone or chemically based, it's for one purpose. To keep Sarah from getting pregnant. The last thing the pack needs with all their current woes is a Thrall Sarah's size with a pup on the way. This would be like... to quote Team America: The World Police, "9/11 x 1000... that's right. 911,000". Sarah got lucky ONCE. And the pack doesn't want to gamble with their lives. Remember, everything the pack has done to this point has been damage control of one form or another.

The next step for Carla, other than procuring more Wolfsbane, is to figure out a regular form of birth control for Sarah to take. Unfortunately, the one male form of birth control, a condom- isn't really going to be Peter's speed... (human form maybe, but even a Trojan Magnum XL isn't going to work on his Wolf form...) Thus, it's going to be up to Sarah to make sure she isn't in a family way anytime soon.

Depo-Provera is a hormone shot that lasts 3 months... in humans. It also involves needles and we know how wuff-Sarah reacts to that. Secondly, given Sarah's abilities, she may burn through that in 13 days, not 13 weeks.

The Intra-Uterine Device, Cervical Cap, Diaphragm, Female Condom, Vaginal Ring, and even the Patch are all out of the question for the same reason. While effective on normal human women, they have to stay in place. There's no guarantee of that given Sarah's massive change in morphology from human to wolfen forms. It'd be too easy for them to slip out of the correct place, and even hurt Sarah when changing back to human form.

Thus, one of the few remaining forms of effective birth control for female werewolves remains the Pill in it's various forms, tweaked of course, to fit the needs of a lycanthrope. Sarah will likely be on 'morning after' versions of high-dosage Progesterone. Carla will be working her butt off trying to figure out the best way to treat Sarah on a regular basis, without giving her too high or too low a dosage.

Other than those, surgical forms of birth control are right out- Lycanthropes tend to heal too quickly, even under surgical conditions, for elective surgeries, and the levels of anethesia for them to be able to be cut on while not provoking a wolf-out. And an abortion is also out of the question.
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Postby Kris@WLP » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:15 pm

Well, werewolf women are only fertile a couple times a year. The odds aren't as great for pregnancy as with humans. (Otherwise the world would be swimming with werewolves, what with their, er, less sexually repressed nature...)

And yes, the birth control Sally Stubbe is on, and which Jean has given to Sarah, is definitely herbal.
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Postby bar1scorpio » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:20 pm

And I just like to get up on a stump every once in a while.. One theme since the beginning has been sexual responsibility...

That said - many of them haven't been exposed to a thrall in this situation. Too many X-factors with Sarah being born a normal human, and they aren't keen on taking chances.
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Postby K-MacK » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:22 pm

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Postby Wizard_of_odd » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:43 pm

Well this being a "pg" forum , i'll keep tightly to innuendo and such and not come right out and say it...

But with Sarah's cycle apparently "in bloom" , Peter could be in for some real trouble... :shock:

If he were anything less than a solidly built ( note , not for his kind mind you...) werewolf , we would probably see a mostly broken down , exhausted graduate , soon to be collage studeent...

Hopefuly the "good doctor" wont ever try to administer anything using a needle ever to Sarah.

As for herbal supliments , perhaps Jean's mother got the equasion "just right" , ( remember she is working from very loose med files , here... :? )

If she got it wrong , well everything that Bar-1 just wrote above me , will be good to know...

I think that this is a first a clean/PrOn comic , adressing sexual responability , I kind of like this refreshing change of view. :D
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